History repeats
If anyone wonders if we have been through the same immigration arguments before, this article shows that that is indeed true:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/07/AR2006050700721.html
Back in the 1910s, Jews were the undesirables. We were considered by the WASP establishment to be impossible to assimilate. We had radical ideas about socialism -- or weird religious ideas that kept us from working on Saturday or eating the same food as everyone else. Today, people worry about immigrants who can't be assimilated or who have questionable loyalties while Jews attend separate schools, marry only other Jews, sing Hatikvah rather than "The Star Spangled Banner", have Israeli rather than US flags in their shuls, and say prayers for the State of Israel rather than the United States. After the nativists slam the doors on Mexican immigrants, you can be sure that we will be next.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/07/AR2006050700721.html
Back in the 1910s, Jews were the undesirables. We were considered by the WASP establishment to be impossible to assimilate. We had radical ideas about socialism -- or weird religious ideas that kept us from working on Saturday or eating the same food as everyone else. Today, people worry about immigrants who can't be assimilated or who have questionable loyalties while Jews attend separate schools, marry only other Jews, sing Hatikvah rather than "The Star Spangled Banner", have Israeli rather than US flags in their shuls, and say prayers for the State of Israel rather than the United States. After the nativists slam the doors on Mexican immigrants, you can be sure that we will be next.
posted by Charlie Hall at 10:10 AM
6 Comments:
"sing Hatikvah rather than "The Star Spangled Banner", have Israeli rather than US flags in their shuls, and say prayers for the State of Israel rather than the United States"
None of the above are halachikally necessary-but doing any or all of them is playing with fire.
An easy solution is to keep nationalism out of schuls. Yahdus is beyond nationality.
BTW-one who lives in theUS-the US is his country. Israel is your country-make Aliyah-there is no exit tax and flights every day to Israel.
Was that about illegal immigrants?
My ancestors were in New Amsterdam by 1635.
While speaking Dutch with a more recent arrival, I have been told to go back where I came from damn foreigner.
El Segundo? You really want me to go back to El Segundo?
Some folks just don't get the concept 'country of immigrants'.
I dunno, we seem pretty safe at the moment, considering most of us have been drafted against our will to become "white people"
charlie,
All due respect, but this is nonsense. The issue isn't keeping out all Mexican immigrants. The issue is stopping (and kicking out)ILLEGAL immigrants.
I'm perfectly happy to have Mexicans, Guatamalens, Ecuadorians, Chinese, Japanese, Ethiopian, Russian, you name it, immigrants. As long as they've filled out the proper paperwork, and been admitted to this country by the US.
And it's nonsense to say that they're going to come after us next. We're at least 5th or 6th on the list. Seriously, you're much too smart to be making such dumb-ass comments.
After the persecution of johnathen pollard, i have lost much of my desire to sing the stars spangled banner, when bush kissed the dictator of saudi arabia last year, i was embarrassed to be an american. If they kick us out, so be it, it's called the messianic era, the prophets told us that the nations will send us packing in every available mode of transportation to israel, we will build a society of torah values, not economic gread and immorality like western civilization.
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